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"The Lurktastic Opponaught" (oppolurker) 10/03/2016 at 18:50 • Filed to: None

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update: the engine grenaded this morning after throwing a few timing related codes for the dealer.

:-(

To their credit, Hyundai have been following the Oppo ethos so far: they’ve been excellent. I think we’re looking at a long block. I’ll know more tomorrow. G‘night all.

I’m having a problem with my ‘14 Elantra GT. Tonight, pulling away from a left hand stoplight, I was treated to a slight loss of power which seemed to quickly resolve itself. I thought it was odd but since it was brief and transient, I chalked it up to my imagination.

About a mile later as I was coasting downhill into my neighborhood, it started idling extremely roughly and then died pulling into my driveway, with a brief glimmer of a low oil light as it stalled (which I assume was from low oil pressure due to the revs dropping).

It never threw a CEL. Just for fun I checked the oil, noted that it was toward the low end of the stick but not extreme and added half a quart of 5W-20. I waited a few minutes and tried to start the car. It struggled to stay running and then died after a second. I’ll have it towed to the dealer (it’s still under warranty) in the morning.

Any guesses on how borked it is? What relevant info or questions should I have ready?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 18:56

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DI pressure pump, or pressure regulator... Or maybe, if you’re lucky a bad crank angle sensor... Any of those SHOULD throw a CEL though, so you might have a dead ECM....

crowmolly > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 18:57

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1.) Probably not an oil related issue

2.) No CEL, so just a WAG. I’d say something fuel related.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 18:58

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could be bad fuel or fuel pressure related problem. odd there’s no CEL.

bob and john > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 18:58

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fuel system. dead pump or something

The Lurktastic Opponaught > crowmolly 10/03/2016 at 19:05

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I figured oil starvation was unlikely as I’d just checked the oil last week before a road trip, and it was fine.

crowmolly > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 19:07

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Looks like 4 of us posted “fuel system” independently of each other, so that may be it.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 10/03/2016 at 19:11

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I get the impression that this is not a mortal wound. It still starts but won’t idle or rev. It sputters along and then dies after a second. That feels like a fuel system issue, and actually reminds me of a problem I had with a fuel pressure reg on a car when I was younger.

Edit: I can has grammar!

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 19:15

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yeah, the lack of a CEL is a head scratcher, I’m sticking with fuel pressure issues too, though.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > crowmolly 10/03/2016 at 19:15

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I’m pretty sure we have a winner. I love consensus- I’ll post an update once I have a firm diagnosis tomorrow. On the plus side, I had a meeting at 8 tomorrow morning that I’ll be missing now, so that’s a nice silver lining.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 10/03/2016 at 19:18

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I’m betting it threw a CEL as it died coming into the driveway- every idiot light on the dash was illuminated.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/03/2016 at 19:18

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Maybe spark plugs? I don’t think that would throw a CEL. I’ve only had bad enough spark plugs to affect performance once and it was mainly on acceleration.

Either way it’s easy to check and cheap if it’s the issue.

shop-teacher > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/04/2016 at 23:17

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That’s not gone well!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/04/2016 at 23:21

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how does a timing fault not throw a CEL? wattafuck?

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/04/2016 at 23:44

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Wow, that new and the engine already died? That sounds flukey to me as I’ve never heard of this happening to any other newer Hyundais....do they know what caused it?

TheHondaBro > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 00:04

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God damn. I think someone must’ve cursed Oppo.

Nauraushaun > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 04:49

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Is that the update? Defined “grenaded” :P

random001 > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 07:05

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Define “grenaded”

The Lurktastic Opponaught > random001 10/05/2016 at 07:22

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I don’t know yet. I should hear something more definitive later today. From what he said about timing, I’m suspecting it’a top end, but that’s just an uninformed guess.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 10/05/2016 at 07:23

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Not yet. I’m expecting more info today.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/05/2016 at 07:23

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I have no idea why it didn’t throw a CEL until the next morning.

The Lurktastic Opponaught > Nauraushaun 10/05/2016 at 07:25

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It’s as much info as I have now. The dealer is tearing into the engine. I should hear more today.

LongbowMkII > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 07:33

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At least they’ve got your back. Good customer service is everything and it seems they recognize that. 

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 07:38

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Looking forward to hearing about it! My ‘09 Accent has been nothing but reliable!

The Lurktastic Opponaught > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 10/05/2016 at 07:44

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Hyundais have, for the most part, been great daily drivers for my family. I was a little sad my wife insisted on a subie instead of a genesis last time around. But shit happens, and that’s where I’m really glad to have a solid, long term working relationship with the dealership where we’ve bought three hyundais over the years. They’ve been nothing short of fantastic.

random001 > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 08:08

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Well, hope it all works out to you having a brandy new engine in that beast! Glad it didn’t happen whilst you were driving somewhere at a high rate of speed, too.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 08:15

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oooh, “grenaded” and no CEL, i’m revising to self-destructed ECM.

Dave the car guy , still here > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/05/2016 at 08:17

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Almost all newer cars with cam and crank sensors can tell when they are out of phase. The computer knows especially on variable valve timing vehicles.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/05/2016 at 08:17

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ECM glitch. As of this moment my money’s on bad computer doing bad things.

Dave the car guy , still here > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 08:29

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Were you over 60k miles?

The Lurktastic Opponaught > Dave the car guy , still here 10/05/2016 at 08:31

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No. 45ish

Dave the car guy , still here > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 08:49

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Good deal , have known 2-3 Hyundai/Kia owners denied warranty because timing belt wasn’t changed at interval. You should be fine.

CaptDale - is secretly British > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 13:33

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132 Recall? Replace short block?

The Lurktastic Opponaught > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/05/2016 at 13:39

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I didn’t know about that as it’s a different make and year, but my car is running a 2.0 GDI. I have no idea if it’s related or not.

CaptDale - is secretly British > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 13:47

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What is your vin?

The Lurktastic Opponaught > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/05/2016 at 13:57

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I don’t have it at work. I did find the 132 vin checker tool though, I’ll run the vin through when I get home. Hyundai’s website said it’s accents and sonatas with 2.4 na and 2.0 turbo mills- mine is a 2.0 na which doesn’t seem to be part of this recall.

CaptDale - is secretly British > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 14:04

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Ah ok cool. I was gonna run the vin through Hyundai (dealer here), but yeah I guess it is just Sonatas.

Nauraushaun > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 18:10

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Cool :)

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > The Lurktastic Opponaught 10/05/2016 at 22:14

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Our driveway looks like a Hyundai dealership as well - I was the first with my 2009 Accent hatchback in Midnight Gray Metallic, then mom and my brother both got Accent sedans, a ‘10 and a ‘09, respectively.

Mom’s sedan is the same color as mine, but a year newer (so she gets the only year that gen of Accent had blue gauge lighting!) and bro’s is the same year as mine, but burgundy and a sedan. I have the only one with a stick tho! :D :P